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just another fork-tongued dragon lady ([personal profile] glass_icarus) wrote2011-09-19 06:17 pm

disjointed links

-- because of course I am flailing about offline while everybody is being thinky and brilliant on the internets. :P

A few #YesGayYA links, more for my reference at this point than anyone else's:
» [personal profile] oyceter: Diversity in YA. I particularly love this post because I sort of... don't see the point of people arguing over a single "best" or "winning" solution for a thorny multi-level problem, when really what is needed is to tackle it at every level, community and individual, in whatever ways are possible.
» [personal profile] deepad: In which I am derailing and contrary and also unsupportive of the Market, because (among her many other points) while having/establishing a baseline of identity representation is important, I also don't believe it is enough. (I remember being grateful for Memoirs of a Geisha the first time I read it; I wouldn't wish such a feeling- for such a book!- on any East Asian immigrant child arriving and growing up here after me.)
» [personal profile] colorblue goes further into hierarchy dissection here.
» [personal profile] ephemere: Just business, because- well. Yes. *is incoherent*

Since I am likely to continue flailing about offline and being sporadic on the internets, have a signal-boost while I'm here: [personal profile] ephemere is taking pre-orders for Kandila, a calligraphy poembook! If you have not seen her calligraphy or art, GO AND OGLE FORTHWITH BECAUSE IT IS MADE OF MUCH GLORIOUS.

[personal profile] boundbooks 2011-09-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"because (among her many other points) while having/establishing a baseline of identity representation is important, I also don't believe it is enough."

Agreed. I went from adoring the very idea of Disney's Mulan to the point where I utterly loathe that movie.
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[personal profile] crossedwires 2011-09-20 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Those are all great links.

because (among her many other points) while having/establishing a baseline of identity representation is important, I also don't believe it is enough. (I remember being grateful for Memoirs of a Geisha the first time I read it; I wouldn't wish such a feeling- for such a book!- on any East Asian immigrant child arriving and growing up here after me.)

YES. And now I get so tangled up and mistrustful of my reactions to representations of POC (especially Asian, especially Chinese and/or Filipin@, though there's more of the former in the media I consume) because part of me still feels like I ought to be grateful for any representation and partly, I feel like I have to be on guard and critical of how these characters or places are portrayed because it's so easy for me to let some stuff slide out of habit, even if it pings as wrong or hurtful or something. I want better for future readers/stories.
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[personal profile] surpassingly 2011-09-20 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so very very very much for the signal boost <33333333333333!
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[personal profile] magnetic_pole 2011-09-20 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
because (among her many other points) while having/establishing a baseline of identity representation is important, I also don't believe it is enough. (I remember being grateful for Memoirs of a Geisha the first time I read it; I wouldn't wish such a feeling- for such a book!- on any East Asian immigrant child arriving and growing up here after me.)

Oh, yes. *beams* In my case--though I know the two aren't analogous--I remember how excited I was the first time a real-life lesbian showed up in a book I was reading--Max in Madeline L'Engle's A House Like a Lotus--and how validating it felt, despite the fact that Max repeatedly reassured the young protagonist that she wasn't gay, she was absolutely "normal."

I wish we could say good riddance to things like Memoirs of a Geisha, certainly no one will read that in a few years...but our community theater put on "The King and I" last spring. *unhappy* M.